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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 19, 2011 3:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

I've never intentionally taken my own hiatus. I don't think I've ever gone more than a few days without hearing them. There have been many periods where my listening shifts from roughly '85% GD/15% Other' to 50/50, and sometimes even as far as 10/90. However, those periods rarely last more than a few weeks, and are becoming much less frequent as the years by go.

When I was a bit younger and would discover a new band I loved, I would delve into their whole musical catalogue and listen to very little GD as I explored new territory. At this point, I don't anticipate discovering too many more bands like this, which is why I only see my GD listening increasing in the future.

Anytime I've listened to them less than usual, they always sound even better when the listening percentages return to baseline. I'd like a to take a break, but I don't know if I'm ready yet. I'm pretty content listening to the Dead everyday at this point in time.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Nov 21, 2011 6:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

Re: My longest break from GD music?
33 years: from Fall 1973 to Fall 2006
Re: Rastamon's questions to rdenirojb87:
Can I post an actual photo of myself here?
I have posted many of my photos: little kid pics, 20-something pics, 30-something pics, contemporary pics, and at least one video.

Have I actually traded any CD's with any forumites here?
No. I haven't done CD trading or B & P. But I've transferred, remastered, torrented and archived a lot of shows that I taped. Many of them are over 35 years old! Most of my tapes are SBDs. My AUDs are high quality FOBs.

Have you met any forumite's in person?
No. I'm in Fort Collins.

Or sent/received any private emails?
Yes. Lots of music-loving people have tracked me down, and e-mailed me with all kinds of interesting questions about bands I taped.

Do you have any forumite Facebook friends?
Yes. The only reason I joined Facebook several years ago was to send an important private msg. to someone on Facebook. I had to join to send that msg. A couple of people have tracked me down on Facebook and "friended me" there. Johnny-on-the-spot comes to mind.

Monte's Taper Handbook
http://www.archive.org/post/347359/staff-requests-suggestions-for-spotliight-item

I wish everyone here would stop being anonymous. People who are not anonymous here tend to behave themselves here. (Everyone knows who you are! ... as it should be!) That would mean no more Trolls! That would cause more people to visit here with a better attitude. Some of them would join in the conversations. Discussions here would improve. It's truly a pity to say this about the best Public Library on the planet.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 21, 2011 9:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

Wow - DHM sets the record for longest break. Why the break if you were taping back in 73?

Mine was only from 91 to 95; then watched horrible, dying Jerry in Charlotte in 95 and swore off the band until around 2005 when stumbled across the archive. Now I usually listen to at least some GD every day at work.

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Poster: vapors Date: Nov 21, 2011 9:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

The longest break I took was from 12/31/87 until 3/27/89. Still listened to tapes though.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Nov 21, 2011 10:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

Why did I stop taping (and going to) GD shows by fall of 1973?
• Opportunity!

My case differs from most tapers in my period, I think. The northeast region's huge crowds for GD shows in 1973 was a big factor for me. I'm from the NYC metro area. RFK Stadium crowds were 60,000 to 100,000. Watkins Glens was 600,000. Roosevelt Stadium in Jersey City was a small crowd by comparison, at 15,000 to 20,000 or so. I also hit their shows at Nassau Coliseum and The Spectrum. But I had unlimited opportunity in my area to seek alternatives to extremely huge GD crowds. I'm curious what others (like Jeff Kaplan) did?

We had some excellent musicians who were in some very good bands in my area. Here's about an old fishing story I told six months ago.

David Lemieux recently described how you could really hear GD's country influence in 1972 and E-72. NRPS were the Cowboy Leaders of the GD Family. This was just discussed.

So I converted to Cowboy in 1973. My neighborhood had many opportunities! It produced some very good musicians. Al Di Meola is one of them. We had numerous musicians and bands from my area that were very good. Among them, we had a clone GD band, a clone Hot Tuna band - with much better violin playing than Papa John Creach (screach), and a John Cipollina clone. I hung out with all of them, except for Di Meola, whom I did not know.

Van Manakas was John Cipollina. John Zias was Jerry Garcia. Eric Levine was a much, much better violin player than Papa John Creach. Eric and Van also played in the Stoney Creek bluegrass band.

At one point, we had Manakas doing Cipollina, and Zias doing Garcia, playing together in the same band - VERY remarkable!. That band was named Hell's Half Acre, after this very bizarre spot nearby Casper, Wyoming. Van was the biggest Cowboy in our bunch at this time, and he had this "thing" for Wyoming, big time! I was at every gig that Hell's Half Acre ever played. The Starship Troopers sci-fi movie that was released in 1997 was filmed in Hell's Half Acre in 1996.

Hell's Half Acre in Wyoming
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Wayne Lopes played as Jorma Kaukonen in our Hot Tuna clone band. He was very good at it. His lead vocals, finger-picking electric guitar, and his mannerisms were very impressive. Wayne is in NYC.

Brett Richardson played like Phil Lesh and Jack Cassidy. Brett had Alembic speaker cabinets with JBLs, a Macintosh amplifier, and he knew everything about Phil and Jack's sound equipment and their expensive Alembic bass guitars. Brett had very long blonde hair. He played a nice looking blonde Guild bass guitar. Sounded great. The first time I heard anything about Alembic, I heard about it from Brett Richardson. Brett was with me when I taped June 10, 1973. Jay Delia was with me when I taped June 9. Brett and I drove to RFK Stadium (Allmans and Dead) from his place. Jay Delia went there with several carloads of my GD friends. Those cars stopped by Brett's place first, but we just missed them. (Brett lived at his grandmother's house.) Then Brett and I showed up at his grandmother's place, ready to hit the road, about 15 minutes later. His grandmother was saying - about the carloads of Dead-heads, "There was a whole 'contingent' of them!"

Needless to say, I taped many shows and incarnations of all these Bergenfield-area bands, artists, and musicians in 1973 and 1974. I learned an awful lot about sound equipment during this period, and I started getting into electronics. Brett Richardson is a also very good fresh water fisherman. We fished together a few times at Oradell Reservoir. I left the area in 1974.

Brett Richardson
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Poster: questionoflife Date: Nov 21, 2011 8:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

Wow. I actually thought this was an interesting question when I saw it last night, but was reluctant to give a thoughtful and sincere answer for fear of being ripped a new one. Some of you people have too much time on your hands. Why you would waste your time posting on an alleged GD forum is beyond me. If you have tired of the topic, perhaps you ought to seek out topics of current interest to you.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 21, 2011 8:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

"Why you would waste your time posting on an alleged GD forum is beyond me. If you have tired of the topic, perhaps you ought to seek out topics of current interest to you."

You mean like this post?

Not intending to rip, just can't figure out why you are commenting on that which you are complaining about.

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Poster: utopian Date: Nov 20, 2011 8:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

I went on a 3 week sailing trip in 91 and had no music. Upon returning I remember how foreign the sound was, jerrys guitar tones struck me and I think I was up grazing for quite a while.

Presently I may be in the longest hiatus I have ever had. Been getting into some amazing new music since signing up for spotify.com a site that gives you access to a rather incredible collection of albums. Every dicks picks, roadtrips, dwnld series ,as well as the extended dead albums with all the juicy bonus tracks. Peggy o bonus from go to heaven, all the jams on blues for Allah, rather incredible all the new shit.

But been really getting into new music
Gaudi - serious thing
Bassnectar - Timestretch
Saafi brothers
Irina Mikailova
Mercan dede
David starfire




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Poster: duckpond74 Date: Nov 20, 2011 8:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

Mercan Dede 'Breathe' is quite nice.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 4:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

"as the years go by".
"When I was a bit younger"

Oh come on, you're allegedly 24 for fuck's sake - what's with the old fart phraseology and the faux world weary cynicism? Are you trying to do us genuine old fart, weary cynics out of a job? Damned young upstart...

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 20, 2011 10:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

He is twenty-four.
Don't you get this? You must not be around young people much. Twenty-four year olds ARE world weary and they DO think they've been around a long time. I think you just don't remember what it was like to be 24.
This type of discourse is why I'm not bothering to check very often - I can see I was right not to bother 'cus you are STILL pointlessly hounding this guy. Do you think it's in the rules somewhere that 24 year olds aren't allowed to sound 24 or that those of us over 50 are not supposed to have to ever talk to young people?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 5:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from having your head up your ass?

Well, ma'am, you'll excuse me if I don't bend over meekly while you paddle my behind. I'm hardly going to bother addressing your broad-brush caricature of what 24 year olds ARE and DO - they're likely to have as wide a range of attitudes and opinions as any other age. In any event I don't really care how old deniro is. I don't give a damn if from time to time the old farts act like teenagers and the youngsters come on like elder statesmen if what they say is interesting.

I'm not taking any responsibility at all for any decision you might make on whether or not to participate here. You're a grown up - no one forces you to read and respond to things that irk you, and no one stops you either. Talk about whatever you want to talk about - but let's try not to get too precious and sanctimonious about it. It's an internet forum, open to all - you put up your words and you take your chances on the responses you get. As I said to you a couple of years ago I am an equal opportunities asshole and will happily be horrible to anyone, irrespective of age, race, gender, religion, sexual orientation or questionable taste in 80s music. The trigger is not who or what you are, but what you say.

This place doesn't belong to anyone - there's no blueprint for the ideal Grateful Dead forum poster and I'm definitely not going to be changing to fit into anyone's notion of what that ideal should be.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 20, 2011 5:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from having your head up your ass?

I don't have an idea how an "ideal" poster here should be. But I can recognize people acting like pure assholes when I see it. It isn't your forum. You might just consider that if you really want to act like an asshole pretty much most of the time when you post, well, some people are going to end up thinking you're an asshole. I know - you don't care. I got that.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 5:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from having your head up your ass?

Like I said - it isn't anyone's forum. And anyone can think what they like - I pretty much said that too. The fact that you think I'm an asshole doesn't negate a single word I say.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from having your head up your ass?

Why can't you just chill a bit, and enjoy chatting? Seriously - it's the rage. The rage, in the middle of every second or third thread. I know you have lots of friends here and I'd like to count myself among them, but you make it tough. Sorry. I enjoy your wit and your "wordsmithing" also, but I cringe waiting for you to unleash your fury at the slightest annoyance. It's abusive.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken?

I am, I do, and there isn't any. I'm actually pretty dispassionate about the goings on here but I do enjoy a bit of verbal back and forth. Whatever you might think sometimes I have no desire to chase you away - but I'm not going to change either.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:06pm
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I am more into "verbal back and forth" than you probably realize from my posting here ... I can be highly argumentative. I don't think what you do is just verbal back and forth. It's seriously angry.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:19pm
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Your perception to the contrary I'm seriously not angry. Internet forum posts are fairly far down the list of things that upset me. I'm perfectly able to be argumentative and direct without getting wound up about it.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:32pm
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Great. Remind me not to ever get you _really_ angry then.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken?

I really doubt you ever will.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:55pm
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Maybe it is cultural differences. An Australian friend tried to explain to me once how Australian men insult each other in ways that to Americans sound truly awful and we'd think the men really hated each other when in fact they are dear old friends. Maybe what sounds like rage to me is perfectly normal everyday conversation to you. I don't know. On the other hand, don't forget Americans carry guns :)

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 8:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken?

Could be cultural, social, gender even. Some people you have to get comfortable with before you start throwing insults - others seem fair game from the get go. We Scots are forever hurling mortal insults at each.other. A lots in the tone and perception - I'll have to work harder at my tone so as not to upset your perception. We don't want bullets flying!

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Nov 22, 2011 6:08am
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nesbitt

It's true.

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Nov 22, 2011 6:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from having your head up your ass?

Where did the option of having your behind paddled come from all of a sudden ?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 22, 2011 6:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from having your head up your ass?

Move on, Mr Hughes. It's all over - nothing to see here.

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Nov 22, 2011 6:11am
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So why are you still here then ?

Must be a slow day at the word-manglers and sentence adjusters sweat-shop today ;0)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 20, 2011 2:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's on the minds of 24 yr olds? Overposting syndrome...

Actually, I wish they WERE! [ie, weary from considering this or that, or having experienced real/perceived life trauma, been on their own, etc.]. NOTE: not that I am weighing in on the debate at this pt--is the poster serious, pulling our legs, and what's the "proper" response...defn nothing personal, right? ;)

It's just that your comment about "what are 24 yr olds thinking?" is one I have spent a great deal of time considering, with many 24 yr olds (mine, others, students, etc., etc).

I am around thousands of them, literally, and the carefree, "WTF do I care?" (perhaps "I don't even KNOW the important questions, much less spend any time considering the answers") attitude is one that puzzles me (I will note my kids don't fall into this category--proud parent or the truth? Who knows?).

This will come off as patronizing, though I hope you know me well enough to know I mean it as a starting pt for discussion--I hope--but I think that we older farts often project our cynical, deeply troubled perspective about the world, the future, blah, blah, blah, onto 24 yr olds, if you follow.

Or, perhaps you're meeting a better class of kids, eh? ;)

When I was 24, we were busy considering all these hugely impt issues, and of course, thought we knew all the answers, but I would say we never would have used terms like this--again, not meaning to say it was anything other than a "smoking jacket moment" that is easy to fall into when posting.

Switching to that topic, I wouldn't worry about this particular poster--he seems to accept that the response you noted by so many in this thread is the inevitable by-product of taking over the lead on "posts per day" for any length of time (ie, what I experienced 3-4 yrs ago; or micah some time back, and now deniro). When you post this much, you're going to be scrutinized. Ironically, just as when you appear out of nowhere, and post in the middle of a "troll-war", ya know?

Hmmm, maybe we are just hypercritical...

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 22, 2011 6:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's on the minds of 24 yr olds? Overposting syndrome...

When I think that my son spent his 24th birthday in a war zone, I gotta think his world view is a world away from what mine was at 24.

ME: Gee, my job is OK, but I can't wait to get to Harper's Ferry, get drunk and hit on hippie-chicks at the Max Creek concert.

HIM: Gee, I hope that pile of rags on the side of the road doesn't explode.

It's true that age is just a number, as so many of us here prove on a daily basis. However, the ability to take shit on a message board does seem to grow over time (in direct proportion to our prostate).

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 22, 2011 6:49am
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you old fart! lol



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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 22, 2011 8:24am
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Absofrickinlootly....but of course, the ones I interact with, like so many, are worlds away from your son (and mine).

;)

And, your prostate can only grow if you got one--so stop whining...

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 22, 2011 8:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's on the minds of 24 yr olds? Overposting syndrome...

Generalizing - everybody does it.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 22, 2011 3:55pm
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Here's something really cool, out this morning:

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 22, 2011 4:26pm
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Oh I do like that - most impressive Thank you for sharing. How big are those things? It's impossible to get any sense of scale.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 22, 2011 9:56pm
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Yes, sorry bout that: three inches...whoops, 75 mm tall, and fruits are 10-15 mm each in length. Here it is with flowers, ~ 2 wks before fruiting...

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 22, 2011 8:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's on the minds of 24 yr olds? Overposting syndrome...

Only mildly relative, but what the hell, this is a world class hijack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97fSOeNGbM0


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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 20, 2011 8:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

what purpose does the constant nitpicking of my posts serve? now i understand if you're doing it in relation to the music. that i encourage. but in this instance, what's the point, other than to stir shit up? or is that your sole purpose?

i AM 24, so you all can continue to be skeptical for whatever nonsensical reason, but like i've said, i don't hide behind masks. i have more integrity than to waste my time making up lies in a place full of mostly jaded old men, most of whom i'll never see in my life.

all this scrutiny has become tiresome. keep it music-related. nothing in my original post was said with any other intention then trying to raise an interesting question. any old fart phraseology was purely coincidental.

edit: just noticed where this post ended up in the thread, and didn't want ARose or WT to think I was talking about them in any way. i'm talking to rob, and i suppose RBNW as well. rob, my only real question i suppose is why the continued scrutiny? i thought you were over it, and i've been enjoying your insightful posts as of late. now you can call me patronizing again!

RB, you can withhold whatever dim-witted response you may have. nobody takes you seriously.

This post was modified by rdenirojb87 on 2011-11-20 16:56:08

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 9:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

Just let's be clear about this - I will continue to post whatever I feel like posting, whether it be music related or not, and whether you find this acceptable or not is absolutely no concern of mine. I could care less how old you are - behaving like a dick is not an age-specific trait. If you continue to be a pompous self important little ass who takes himself a great deal too seriously you will continue to be a source of merriment and a target for ragging. Got it?

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 20, 2011 9:15am
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you have a bad habit of avoiding questions. i had a simple question for you, that was all. that post tells me nothing i don't already know. i do find it highly ironic that you would call me pompous though. thanks for the laugh.

i know that you will continue to rag on people. but like i said, it has become tiresome. when you keep it music-related, or add colorful humor and wit, that's a whole different story. but to go back to my original question, what's the point, if you're not being funny, and just spurting nonsense?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 9:28am
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If you actually do appreciate irony then it's something of a surprise that the tenor of my original post apparently went sailing over your young head. As to the point, I refer you to my previous response. You sit up begging to be made fun of.


However, I would like to take this opportunity to apologise profusely for not supplying apposite posts of a sufficiently high calibre to meet your exacting standards of musical discourse, wit, sagacity and excoriating insight.

(That's sarcasm, son.)

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 20, 2011 9:40am
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i can't lie. i believe i do find these exchanges to be somewhat amusing. but it sucks for everyone else here that has to weed through this garbage to find anything of substance on the forums. i'm sure that doesn't bother you in the slightest though.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 9:56am
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No, doesn't bother me at all. I have no control over what other people choose to read here, nor would I wish to. You, along with everyone else, are totally at liberty to ignore anything and everything I say, but if it provides a much-needed boost to your ego to lob your lightning witbombs back in response to my senile meanderings then lay on, MacDuff.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:03pm
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this is a pretty far out concept to you. but perhaps one day, you'll find yourself wondering why you wasted so much time on a GD forum, spewing continual nonsense. i know you don't value much, but what about your own time? if i was 50, the last fuckin' thing i'd want to do would be to waste time bickering with a 24-year old, about boring, meaningless, bullshit that serves no purpose other than to make you look pathetic.

do you have nothing better to do at this point in your old age? do you not mind wasting away in front of a computer, and letting real experiences pass you by, as you dwindle away and wish you'd spent more time doing things of use?

your life must be pretty shitty, or you wouldn't feel obligated to make up for your real-life inequities on the internet. it's a pretty simple and true observation, and i can say with great certainty that your actions here are a form of compensation for your lack-luster life in the real world. it takes a cold person like you to focus solely on what you want in the forums, and ignore the large majority who are here for the fucking music!

you are one of the plagues that has prevented this place from becoming the respectable place it has the ability to. i'm sure you'll take that as a compliment though, you insensitive cunt.

it must give you great comfort every morning to realize that your life only sucks off-line, and that there are a few people here who have high-regard for the all-mighty rob. I don't see any other motivation for you being the prick you are.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:08pm
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Manufactured outrage - how sweet. And you worked so hard at it too!

:-)

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:40pm
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manufactured? don't flatter yourself. i don't waste much time on you, but the same can't be said for you.

once again, you have a terrible habit of avoiding questions that have elements of truth to them. you're either afraid of confronting the truth, or need time to concoct a witty response. if you have any shred of dignity left, you'd attempt to answer my questions. you are making yourself look more pathetic every single day. perhaps you don't have much left to live for.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:12pm
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Ho hum. Do me a list and I'll get back to you when I have a moment.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

i'd prefer it if you'd just forget about it at this point. i'm ready to move on from another day's bullshit. you've been boring the shit out of everyone lately rob. if you insist on keeping up your superior, witty, tough-guy, douche bag act, then take a few days off, hone your skills, and come back when you can put together a somewhat amusing rambling.

you don't have your edge anymore, but you're probably not the least bit aware of it. it happens to old people, don't be afraid. everything slowly turns to shit, which you are in the midst of right now. that explains your hostility. but it doesn't explain why at age 50+, someone would want to waste their time doing the things you do. food for thought. going to have a cannoli now.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

Oh you're such a funny little thing. So much to say - so ill equipped to say it.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 20, 2011 10:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

>it sucks for everyone else here that has to weed through this garbage to find anything of substance on the forums.

That's it.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 20, 2011 2:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

Ha--that's a true difference between a newbie and an old fart, Forum Style!

EG, I avoid most all DEAD related posts, and go only for the chit-chat, off DEAD topics, as I completely and utterly exhausted how great 68 was a few yrs back. I suppose I do my share of helping with questions ("how do you convert WAV to MP3?" and such, since so many helped me, I figure I owe them/the Forum/newbies), but you're still young enough in Forum yrs to appreciate the musical threads!

For me, this thread was only important in so far as it got me thinking about the whole "what do 24 yr olds think?" issue (see above). In fact, this actual question has been asked once every six months or so here, thus the actual topic, just like how much I love 68, is really tiresome to me (ie, "tell us about your hiatus from the DEAD").

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 20, 2011 2:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

"In fact, this actual question has been asked once every six months or so here, thus the actual topic, just like how much I love 68, is really tiresome to me (ie, "tell us about your hiatus from the DEAD")."

Amen. Testify Brother Tell!

How many Deadheads does it take to change a lightbulb - or a forum thread?

101. 1 to change it, and 50 to claim it burned brightest on 10/12/68 and another 50 to vehemently argue it was 2/14/68 on which it burned brightest.



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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 20, 2011 3:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

Honestly, I do not know what most of your post means. The old boys club here is tiresome. Seriously: if you guys are tired of talking about the Grateful Dead, you just might consider that some other people AREN'T, and that's why people might sign on to a forum labeled "Grateful Dead"? It is not a boring echo loop for all of us. New people here have no way of knowing that the old regulars here consider it "their" forum and new people have to talk about what they want to talk about or else be relentlessly hazed.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

Hey D. This forum has been going now for just about 6 years and before that it was mixed within the LMA forum so some people have been posting here a lot longer. Needless to say many ideas for threads, especially these polling time threads have been done before. In fact for the last few years i can't say that there have been many threads that have been initiated that are really all that original. It is why i don't start many any at this point. I can't think of a good question to ask or have new insights into the band. However through all that time, some friendships have been forged thus people still come to meet with their friends, many whom they will never meet face to face. So the old boys network is more of a an old friends network and i think that is why many people still hang here. Does it give them the right to act like trolls, especially when a thread is relevant to the topic? Not at all. However this thread had almost nothing to do with the grateful dead. It had to do with the listening habits of the individuals who participate in this forum and i think when you are asking about the people in this forum you are more likely to get hijacked by people in this forum. I asked a question about the band last week and every response was on subject. I don't think its because i have been posting here for a few years and have friends here, because not everyone agreed with my opinion. I don't envision you as an old boy, however i don't think your threads about finding some great JGB show ever get hijacked so I don't believe this is a case of hazing. I think this 24 year old brings a lot of heat on himself. When PatKelleyPA questioned the point of one these polls (worst song ever or something like that), rdeniro thought the appropriate response was to ask how Pat's rehab was going. So if someone disagrees with you they must have fallen off the wagon? Taking a shot at someone's real life struggles is in imo a much more egregious shot than knocking someone's unusual style of writing. And it is unusual for a 24 year old to write this way. I spend most of my days with students who are between 24-30 and none of them communicate to me like they are old. They usually communicate to me that I am old! Additionally, if i may go old school on you, when this forum started there were some kids who were much younger than 24 that posted regularly here and their posts were not only not picked on, they were highly appreciated and respected. Look up the name Max Chorak if you want an example of how people at this forum can interact in a perfectly appropriate with younger folks.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

"When PatKelleyPA questioned the point of one these polls (worst song ever or something like that), rdeniro thought the appropriate response was to ask how Pat's rehab was going. So if someone disagrees with you they must have fallen off the wagon?"

You couldn't have interpreted that any worse. No ill-intentions at all behind that.


As for Max Chorak, there are many reasons he wasn't picked on that I don't have the desire/time to discuss.

I am who I am, and won't be changing in any attempt to please the overly critical bunch. There's still enough people that appreciate my additions here that relate to music, and I couldn't give a fuck what the others think.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

Are you serious?! He calls your post/you assinine, and you want to really know how rehab's going?

Don't make it worse...

http://www.archive.org/post/399415/worst-original-gd-song-played-300-times-poll-included

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

"He calls your post/you assinine, and you want to really know how rehab's going"

yes i did. it's called reaching out. i suppose nobody here helps people. what crazy idea? many people are very open to talk about it and a lot of good often results. i understood that it's a sensitive topic for some, which i why i said to just ignore me if he didn't want to respond, and that i'd understand.

most people i've asked similar questions to, are more than glad to talk. i was talking a small chance that that might occur. but clearly, it just resulted in more bullshit reasons to scrutinize my posts.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 20, 2011 8:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

How could it NOT result in this effect--scrutiny?! You're telling me that in the middle of a rag-fest, you think it's the time to ask, honestly and sincerely, of the fellow that clearly thinks you are an ass, how his rehab is going?

Seriously?

It's asking us to believe you have the social sensitivity of a mollusk, or the kinder/gentler status of Mother Teresa. It's utter nonsense either way.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 20, 2011 8:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

it wasn't in the middle of a rag fest. i thought the ragging was over, but that's besides the point. it wasn't harsh bickering, and i didn't think me or anyone else was too serious about it. that's why i added "on a more serious note.."

i've brought up rehab to many people. almost all of them are happy that you asked them and care how they are doing.

interpret it however the fuck you want. you don't know what you're talking about in this instance, so i suggest you rant somewhere else now.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 20, 2011 8:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

As usual, your interpretation vs mine; lets ask Pat (or Ring Lee O) for his view, and that will be that...let me know when you hear back from him.

Who's ranting? This is an argument, no profanity unless you're really angry, eh?

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 20, 2011 9:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

well then you can't not include all the people i've asked who responded very favorably. and in that case, i would have you beat, but i really don't caree.

my point was that most people you ask that to, if they know you've had problems of your owe, are very open to discussions about it which can often be very rewarding for one if not both parties. i took my chances, and pat wasn't one of those people.

if you notice i still wished him well after he came back and insulted me. so obviously i never had any ill-intentions. it's ludicrous to think that i did.



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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 20, 2011 10:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

I think what we need here is intervention from that all-important superhero, the Telepathic Fly on the Wall.

The ability to turn into a Telepathic Fly on the Wall is a very important super-power. It enables you to (a) see everything that happened during a particular past event, and (b) know exactly what was in the other person's mind.

That way, when someone says, "That was rude" (or mean or whatever), and someone else says, "I didn't MEAN to be rude," and the other person says, "Yes you DID, because you did yaddy-yah," and the first person says, "No I DIDN'T, because that's not what happened at ALL, I didn't do yaddy-yah I did higgledy-bop," the Telepathic Fly on the Wall can sweep in and solve it all!

Sadly, although I know about this super-power, I don't seem to have it. Anyone else? It could be so very useful, in so many circumstances, virtual and otherwise.

(See the advantage of posting from another time zone? I get to come in after the smoke is cleared and make silly comments, and probably no one will shoot me down. If they do, I'll cry. And then the girls will leave the locker room. And then you boys will be all alone with Rob and Dire -- I mean, I don't really know Dire, but I've heard about him -- so THEN see you how like it. Hah.)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 21, 2011 5:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

Hey, that crying idea? Don't bother. I did--that's where my "whining" comment comes from...I used to do it all the time here. Well, kinda; seriously...look up my early posts.

But, I got tough...got mean...got a life? Not sure in which order. Or if the first two actually happened.

I will say this: do NOT, repeat, do NOT look up any old posts by Dire.

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Poster: billydlions Date: Nov 21, 2011 5:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

I cant help but feel bad for Ring. Perhaps the hook would be a better place for her? As for rdeniro, I completely agreed with you until I re-read the original thread and he did say "on another more serious note" so perhaps he deserves the benefit of the doubt? He still shouldn't have brought that up, but that's not the first time someone has questioned someone's sobriety around here is it? Micah accused Rob of the same not too long ago and there's been many other instances as well.

FWIW Tell, I cant understand half of yours posts either!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 21, 2011 6:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

Hey BD--yeah, I hear ya; re: Ring...that's why I persisted in this, per usual, "no win" situation. Flies on the wall aside, I have had enough exchanges with un-named but obvious poster that I simply ignore now, and should've followed that, my own, advice, but I have seen too many examples of "oh...I didn't mean that" when there is really no other way to interpret it. If it's my bad, then, there ya have it; but, once I do it with a poster 3 or so times, then I say, "enough's enough", and write them off. Unfortunately, there really are folks that post things without thinking, then make excuses, upset folks, and so on.

I for one, am no doubt in that category at times, but other than my writing skills leaving you scratching your head, I assume you have a fairly strong sense of "who is Tell?" in the sense of "what kind of person", and that's all that I can be responsible for...

As for missing what I write--elb always sez it's the abbreviations, and writing too fast (I really do just spew this out at ~ 50 words a minute without looking back, no spell ck...I mean, anything else would be "work", eh?).

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 21, 2011 7:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

whatever you believe, my question about rehab was the only sincere inquiry as to how someone else who's struggled with addiction is doing, because i honestly did care. and i've helped others in his situation. i believe other times a similar question was asked, it was not done with good intentions. i can see how some may think my question was too blunt, but it was meant in a good way. and in my experience, that question is not out of line. tell that to the people i've helped. ok i've had enough of all this. i believe there's some music somewhere on the site. i'll go check out some of that.

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Poster: billydlions Date: Nov 21, 2011 7:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

I thought I was defending you but you're doing your best to prove Tell is correct. So if Pat Kelly responded to your post saying "this is the best post here in years, I hate Mexicali" would you have responded "Thanks, Pat, btw how's your rehab going?"

I dont think so...



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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 21, 2011 7:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

yes, i honestly would have, but in different words. and i don't fucking care if you don't want to believe me. it was something i'd wanted to ask him, and i planned on inquiring about it regardless the circumstances.

if i was doing it to be a dick, why would i follow up and say that i still wish him luck, after he came back and insulted me again? is it really that hard to believe that i'm a nice person who likes helping others? must be an incredibly foreign concept around here. get your head out of your asses. for the last fucking time, i have never told a single lie here and never will. so continue to waste time nitpicking away, but it's a waste of fuckin' time.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 21, 2011 2:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

If you make a smartass post in the forum and there's no one there to read it, is it still annoying?

:-)

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 21, 2011 2:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

Yeah, but only to me.

But hey, bluedevil read it. And you :-)

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 21, 2011 2:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

Truly this place transcends the boundaries of time, space and decorum.

Unbridled smartassedness from the UK to Kathmandu in a single click. Scary.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 21, 2011 2:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

I prefer to think of my posts as perceptive and full of hidden yet sharply observed truths. Or at least truthiness. I mean, it really would be useful to have a Telepathic Fly on the Wall superpower. Except that some smartass would come along with a fly swatter. What a world, what a world.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 21, 2011 2:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

"I prefer to think of my posts as perceptive and full of hidden yet sharply observed truths"

Don't we all, dear, don't we all...


And with a bound he returned to his secret identity - Flyswatterman!!

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 21, 2011 3:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

It's scary when the boys in the locker room are armed. Fortunately, I'm from The Land of Many Cows, so I believe I can produce distractions that will enable me to make my escape. (When all else fails, harken back to esteemed forum traditions.)

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 21, 2011 3:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

Armed and extremely innocuous - provided you're properly inoculated against the deadly smartass forum-flu that does the rounds every now and then (I think it started with some chick in Asia :-) ). Me, I'm a carrier so I've got natural immunity.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 21, 2011 5:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

hey rdenirojb87,

Can you post an actual photo of yourself here?
Have you actually traded any CD's with any forumites here?
Have you met any forumite's in person?
Or sent/received any private emails?
Do you have any forumite Facebook friends?

Just curious, most of the "oldies" here have done one or several of the above and proved themselves "real people" warts and all.

I've done all the above, whoop dee do! lol

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 21, 2011 7:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

i'd love to rasta. but i'm not going to do that simply to prove my identity. anybody who think i'm lying for any reason in a fuckin' paranoid idiot. i'm as straight-forward as they come, and it's hilarious that some think i would have any other motives than to just enjoy some good musical discussion.

i like putting a face to all the names here so i like that idea in that sense. i could care less about disproving who i am. i already know who i am, and any sensible person knows as well. but, i'd like to see what everyone else looks like to. so start a thread where everyone posts there pic and i'll follow suite.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 21, 2011 8:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

hey rdenirojb87, AGAIN

Can you post an actual photo of yourself here?
Have you actually traded any CD's with any forumites here?
Have you met any forumite's in person?
Or sent/received any private emails?
Do you have any forumite Facebook friends?

A simple yes or no to each of the above would be insightful.
Just a wild guess is that 5 X No, equals...?

There are LOTS of forumites here who HAVE posted personal photo's and have had real life meetings, who trade CD's, who email each other, who share Facebook pages.

I can send out an email en mass to @20 established GD Forumites. BFD, but I can.
I share Facebook with 4 forumites...BFD, aye?

You are the mystery person who posts to almost every GD thread.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 21, 2011 8:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

ok rasta, i'll indulge you.

Can you post an actual photo of yourself here?
can you start one of those threads? i'll be the bad guy if i do so. i got nuttin to hide. i'll post pictures of my whole damn family.

Have you actually traded any CD's with any forumites here?
not yet. almost made a trade yesterday for a cash album, but then realized i had a copy of it. i haven't been very actively participating here until the last few months, so there haven't been many opportunities presented for trading. i'd love to help others out with with my vast catalogue of music, but nobody has asked me yet.

Have you met any forumite's in person?
only been actively posting here for a few months, but i will probably get the opportunity to do so at some point.

Or sent/received any private emails?
yes, but they are private

Do you have any forumite Facebook friends?
i'm not really a facebook guy, so no. i have a facebook, but very rarely use it for anything other than to send a quick message to someone whose phone number or e-mail i don't have.

happy?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 21, 2011 6:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

Hey Rasta--you know me and my need for remaining "incognito", but FWIW, most folks joined Hook at one time or another, and that is where I went many a time to send private emails for addy's to send CDs, and such...

Or the old "up for a moment and gone" approach here works too.

Not that I am suggesting a round of group hugs is about to break out or anything...but I've only posted pics of my dogs here; Dire called me a "sally" for not using the real me too! Mean ol dog--he later said he was drunk, and since he told me, I can say it, right?

;)

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 21, 2011 6:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

'the old "up for a moment and gone" approach here works too'.


Should I say it or should I leave it for SDH to pick up?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 21, 2011 7:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

Oh brother...that one, PLUS, did you see my other set-up for SDH in reply to BD#2? "...after I've done it with a poster 3 times, that's it..."

What a git.

What else am I here for, eh?

EDIT: oh, while we on "me" (ahem), am I really that hard to understand? Is it a compliment or a slap in my weak writing skills face? Inquiriing minds want to know...

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 21, 2011 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

Leave it for SDH to pick it up?

Git?

Is that all I'm good for? Foraging in the dark recesses of the Forum, hoping for the occasional tidbit of homophobic innuendo, or perhaps a slice of erotic double entendre? Morsels that were cast about by you people, just as you'd feed a mangy pigeon in the park. Well, I don't need your handouts,thank you very much. Seems you're too busy with at least one of your hands most of the time.

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Poster: billydlions Date: Nov 21, 2011 7:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

Your professorial intellect is just too advanced for us simple minded folks. Sounds like our current president?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 21, 2011 7:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

Ah, a compliment if ever I read one...well, BD#2, even if you're just being "nice", I won't worry about it--life's too short or something like that...thx.

EDIT: whoops...wait a minute--just read the rest of your post; well, okay, I do love basketball, so we're okay on that front. I think...?

;)

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Poster: billydlions Date: Nov 21, 2011 7:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

There you go again speaking in riddles. Ok, I think I get it (I told you..simple minded). As for basketball, cancel the whole season! I live by the dream team, so let them keep dreaming.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 21, 2011 7:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

Yeah, what a drag, eh? Billionaires and millionaires haggling?! Turns your stomach, ya know?

Ha--all I meant was I assume you might not necessarily "like" our current prez, but turned it into "Tell and the Prez both love bball" so I was safe from harm...I think!

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 21, 2011 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

sorry - double post

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 21, 2011 12:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

For what it's worth I don't find you hard to understand at all - but I've had plenty of time to get tuned in to your various linguistic tics and eccentricities. You've got a pretty high strike rate of posts that reward the time spent on the read and decipher.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Nov 21, 2011 7:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Send up the Bat Signal! I mean the Fly Signal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FGZvFZdVbk

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 20, 2011 11:26pm
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Dire? That guy is even a bigger asshole than bluedevil - hard to believe, but true.

doesn't matter anyway...

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

Wow. That was one of the most breathtakingly disingenuous pieces of self-serving bullshit I've seen here in quite a while.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 20, 2011 8:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

i know that concept is so incredibly foreign to a person like you, and i would never expect you to be able to grasp anything of that nature.

but, how am i being disingenuous?

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

Perhaps all this is inevitable since we're talking about a group that is historical, not live now. Even with a group we all feel this strongly about, since they don't make new music there are only so many topics to be covered, and after they've been covered a few times, posters turn on each other.

I guess I am an outlier - I am not one of the youngsters, yet I am also not one of those folks who saw them 900 times and are too jaded to bother with younger people who didn't see them and inevitably come across naive, even annoying. I am an oddball, I did see them way back when but I didn't get really excited about them until recently, so I have not had all these conversations dozens of times over the years. Maybe if I had, I would be intolerant of these conversations, too.

I just don't see why we have to eat our young here ... as to whether he is really 24 or not, I really don't even understand the significance of that. People are always implying people are really someone else ... talk about a boring echo loop ...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:16pm
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Why don't you mention how often many of the old boys help folks out with questions? I still do this at least once a week.

I think you are taking this interaction way too seriously.

Check this thread and decide for yourself if deniro doesn't bring this stuff on himself:

http://www.archive.org/post/399415/worst-original-gd-song-played-300-times-poll-included

Read that and tell me he is serious about not meaning anything by asking Pat K about his rehab...that was utterly uncalled for.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:38pm
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Yeah, that wasn't nice. But it was in reply to this:
"this is the most asinine post i've ever seen on this forum."

One gets a pass, why? because he's an old timer on the forum. The new kid is supposed to just take getting bashed around, why again?

and there is some other viciousness in that thread, too.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:33pm
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You missed my point: TODAY, deniro said "I didn't mean ANYTHING by that, elb!", and yet you know he did, as I know he did...Pat was "mean", and deniro was downright NASTY, and now denies he was...you don't get passes for that. [Pat was honest at least. Others agreed with Pat, right?]

Just saying.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:44pm
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refer to my said nastiness. you got it completely wrong here, for once.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 20, 2011 4:51pm
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Ouch! Who's ragging now?

I suppose I am guilty as charged--though if misunderstood, perhaps the charges won't stick?

;)

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 20, 2011 5:36pm
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It's really fine, if this is just how you guys want it, then this is how you guys will have it.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 20, 2011 3:19pm
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Sorry mom.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 20, 2011 5:33pm
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It sucks.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 5:40pm
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So blow me.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 20, 2011 5:49pm
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Let's see. Me (marginal), deniro (newbie), and Ring (not a harsh word for anyone). And You. And all the others before. And all throughout old posts going back years. So many other people and you.

So it really isn't personnel deniro and Ring and all the others. We just strut and fret our moment on the stage. And their will be many after.

And screw all this. This week is Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving Rob. I still think if we were to meet and have a coffee that we wouldn't communicate as we do here. I bet we might even get along. Maybe I would finally get your jokes (or at least the 80% I miss).

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:17pm
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Well if you miss 80% of my jokes I can't fathom 80% of what you say so maybe we're quits on that. But tell me, who are all these 'others' to whom you refer? And happy holidays to you too. Really. I just play the words like I see them - this isn't my life. Or yours.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:38pm
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"I still think if we were to meet and have a coffee that we wouldn't communicate as we do here. I bet we might even get along."

I find this interesting as well. Anytime I've posted for long enough on a forum, some trivial confrontation is started that could last forever. Make it a face to face conversation, and most likely no confrontation would start in the first place. if it does. it can be settled in minutes, rather than days of bickering.

if i met rab in real life, we'd probably go grab a few pints, and he wouldn't act like the dick he is here. in that case, there's a chance we could actually enjoy each other's company! but if not, we'd quickly tell each other to fuck off, and that would be it.

why can't things be so simple here?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Would Forumites like each other offline?

Serious comment, re: "real life" meet ups...I actually think just the opposite. I find the age old notion "would we be friends if we met offline?" interesting, and I answer it very differently.

I am quite confident that I have such divergent views from so many here that I would utterly detest a lg social setting with all of the Forumites.

I had nothing in common with 95% of those at shows (other than the DEAD) and I would guess that other than the "old friends" here (see post by elb), I wouldn't have much in common with many folks here that I haven't had extensive conversations with (I suppose that means MOSTLY the "old boys").

My view is that the web allows us to interact with folks that we would NEVER choose to do so with in the "real" world.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:07pm
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Divergent views do not automatically eliminate the possibility of "getting along". As long as there is some modicum of basic human respect shown by both parties, and there is some convergent point; a meet-up with the sharing of a good beverage(Irish whisky, beer, coffee, etc.)could be enjoyable. But I will agree that it is mostly the "old guys" that I think would make the best company.

And BTW, Beka hasn't checked in at DH since August

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:20pm
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Oh trust me--I could get along with anybody, and often have to for a variety of work related reasons...but you get the idea. I'd be checking my watch in no time (or asking you to sneak me and Rob out the back door before the mob got us, eh?).

Thx, Bill.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 21, 2011 8:37am
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Real life meet-ups?

So far I'm 4 for 4 with whirlwind, Jim Glynn, Cliff and Finster. One of these days I'm hoping to shake a couple more out at FloydFest or The Festy.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 21, 2011 9:23am
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A good group, for sure...I was only making the small pt that it ain't necessarily so. But, you have a bigger heart than this grinch, so the shoe may not fit both our feet.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 21, 2011 10:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Would Forumites like each other offline?

Maybe not at the same time.....but we'd have to bring the Dookie along just for fun.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 21, 2011 10:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Would Forumites like each other offline?

I had a great hang with JOTS and his then new bride and still plan to get up to the Great White North to spend time with them.

But I'm sure I'd hate most of you folks - freakin' Deadheads....

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:32pm
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I tried telling micah to fuck off but it didn't really work. Why would you be.different?
:-)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:27pm
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No body language and collectively our writing is not that good.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 21, 2011 12:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: When I look in the mirror what do I see?

How these things get started is always very hard for me to comprehend. So in an effort to divert things, thought I'd throw this out there. No one should be serious about much of anything in this place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JoKJsjtLxw

My self image could do with some work, obviously.

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Nov 21, 2011 2:03pm
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Finally, something Dennis Leary didn't steal from Bill Hicks.

Anyone who would steal jokes from a dead guy is an ASSHOLE!

Louis CK claims Leary stole the bit from him though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwhxqnCyoGo

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 21, 2011 1:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: When I look in the mirror what do I see?

Just thank your lucky stars you won't have to endure what my wife has to see everyday...it's not a pretty picture, and if you think I will partake in the "post your pic, let everyone see just how pathetic you look now" game--no thank you (sorry, Rasta--a man's got to hold on to at least some myths and self deception, re: dignity...you think HFlow and Dire will fear me and McGlone when they see my shrunken and deformed figure?).

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Nov 21, 2011 1:10pm
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Hmm, dire is a masshole and have we ever seen him and Dennis Leary together?

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:21am
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don't forget he is an avid baseball card enthusiast!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 20, 2011 5:39am
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Yes, I had the same reaction...I noticed Rose's response was something along what mine would've been if I'd bothered.

I think I've been on a hiatus since Australia, what--18 months now? Damn.

And yet, I still post at a DEAD site...strange.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 5:47am
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Yeah, but let's be honest, the music stuff got stuck on a boring echo loop a long time ago - these days we come for the wit, repartee and searing zeitgeisty insights don't we?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:30am
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I think so--however, I scan the Big Board these days, and see I am diminished. Quality rather than quantity? Hard to say (perhaps not...), but it certainly has been interesting to see the various shifts over the yrs, and to realize right now we seem to be in an extended period of calm, eh? Er, Forum-wise.

But, you know it's getting bad when you come to this place, and spend most of your time looking up old posts simply to find out something old so-and-so posted 4 yrs ago.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:48am
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But you can always comfort yourself with the thought that when old so and so was posting back in the dim and distant deflippingniro had barely started shaving.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Nov 20, 2011 5:56am
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I come for the free donuts and to remind W.T. that the Band played its 2nd best HTH on 8/6.

Having begun listening to the band in 1967, I listened constantly through around 1974. Since then it has been sporadic. I may not listen to them for a year or two. Times change. So donuts don't.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:50am
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Responses from GoP, SDH and WT - now that's what I call a trifecta!

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:24am
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Free donuts.....? I thought with six you get eggroll! But free donuts is unheard of!!!

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:33am
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"...these days we come for the wit, repartee and searing zeitgeisty insights..."

Wow, sounds like a good forum. You got their address?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:48am
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If you build it they will come.


And troll the fuck out of it...

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 21, 2011 11:15am
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And given the apparent inclinations of some participants in these parts, I wouldn't be suprised to see someone try to fuck the troll out of it.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 21, 2011 12:07pm
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You got someone in mind? For either party?

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 21, 2011 12:09pm
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I figure we'd draw straws. Low man gets Dire.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 21, 2011 12:14pm
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You mean like in 'the cattle are lowing'? That kind of low?

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 21, 2011 12:27pm
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Low man as in "Low man on the totem pole"

->"Low in rank, least important person, as in I just joined the board so I'm low man on the totem pole . This slangy expression is thought to have been invented by the American comedian Fred Allen about 1940 and caught on despite its lack of application to a genuine totem pole."

I would have used the whole expression, including the pole, but I didn't want to get WT all flustered.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 21, 2011 12:32pm
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Go ahead, it's "whack Tell with a pole day" so take your best shot...hmmm, maybe it's actually, "take a poll on Tell stays/goes" like a few yrs back? No one even voted if I recall.

BTW, you missed a number of set-ups, much better than the above...you must be slipping, or actually doing something productive? I shudder at the thought...

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 21, 2011 12:42pm
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I must be slipping.

I'll try better to keep up.

Last week was unusually hectic.

And no, I wont be commenting on you being whacked with anyone's pole.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 21, 2011 12:53pm
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Too late. You did it. Now we're going to have the homoerotic gag brigade on our backs again. No, wait a minute, that didn't come out right...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 21, 2011 1:07pm
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"homoerotic gag brigade"

You're right; that's US, I am afraid...although perhaps we only compose a platoon, eh?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 21, 2011 1:14pm
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I think we're the Lost Patrol. But at least we have each other's backs. Well, you know what I mean...

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 21, 2011 3:27pm
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this thread has so much color. gotta be one of the most varied threads in awhile. i can't imagine trying to keep up with it, without reading it as it has unfolded. anybody seeing this thread for the first time, whose attempting to make sense of it all, really has their work cut out for them.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 21, 2011 4:10pm
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What it lacks in quality, it makes up for in quantity; as MJ said, when the words are stacked on top of each other on the far right of the screen, with barely an "an" making the space limits, well, you've got a story to tell your kids: "I was there--nay, I was part of it--the day the Forum was extended beyond any accepted norms of posting decorum and tolerance for readers expecting something of worth from their efforts".

Doesn't happen often, but what the Hell--we all survived to post another day, eh?

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Nov 20, 2011 4:16pm
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Well, despite all the responses below, I'll answer this straight up.

Hindsight is 20-20. (obvious) Being of older age is not superior, not better - just different in that it affords you the rear view mirror as well. When I was roughly your age, I left the GD behind... the change in sound was enough (77-78), let alone the fact that I was newly married and living paycheck to paycheck. Life intervenes... sometimes you can afford to pursue your hobbies, other times your energy is invested elsewhere, like working a 60 hr week. I bought a couple of the newer albums (Go To Hell, etc) but was singularly unimpressed. My "hiatus" was from roughly 1980 to 2008 when I discovered GD podcasts and the Archive. And so it was I discovered what I had truly missed - I was around for the glory years (early 70s) but I wasn't yet into the GD at that time.

Consider yourself lucky to be attuned, and able to pursue your passion. Hope that doesn't come off as patronizing from this older head. Perspective has rewards.

Someone just turned me on to Bela Fleck - I was totally floored. Yeah I know, they've been around 20 years. All the tons of great music out there... life is short.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 20, 2011 6:26pm
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That's what's great about the music biz these days with access being what it is, ya know? I find myself, when bored with CREAM & the DEAD, exploring others from decades past that I missed at the time.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 19, 2011 7:00pm
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I stopped listening after Garcia's death for a long time. A decade and a few years. Then in '08, when I discovered IA, I went on a three year binge that I think is over now. I haven't listened to a note in a month (last show 10-12-68) and have no plans to do so. Until next time of course. I have wanted to review 3-24-90 so maybe then.

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Nov 19, 2011 8:39pm
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Two summers ago, when Phish started touring again, I naturally went on a long binge of listening to them, both in concert and at home. I was also heavily into Bela Fleck at this time. I probably went about 2-3 months of no GD at all - that's been the longest for me since 2004.

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Poster: dethwort Date: Nov 19, 2011 3:52pm
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After following the Grateful Dead religiously for about 6 years, starting in the late 80's, a very good friend of mine died suddenly within about a month after Jerry Garcia died. This was a deeply painful time for me. I felt as though I had lost two friends who I had counted on over those years. I couldn't get myself to listen to the Dead until last year !!! Now I'm back to listening to them every single day, almost to the exclusion of everything else, and it's been a therapeutic experience for me. Thank GOD for archive.org

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Nov 20, 2011 8:59am
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I stopped going to shows in '91 and my listening to them fell off markedly for a few years...I'd pull out a show every few months or so, but that was about it. During this time my tape collection rapidly dwindled thanks to age and attrition, and I made no effort to replenish it. I started listening to them more regularly again around 2000 or so, which coincided with my ability to download shows from the online word (anybody remember gdlive?). Nowadays they are once again the band I listen to the most, although the frequency isn't even close to every day or even every week(too much other music I want to get to).

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Nov 19, 2011 7:09pm
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the list of bands below have limited my time to the grateful
dead to a handful of hours in the last 8 months.i don't see
me going back to playing them everyday like i use to.to many
great bands and music to explore.i do have an itch every now
and then for a 68,69 or 73 show but that's about it.

some bands folks should check out well if your into space rock,stoner rock and instrumental jams.

never to old to discover new music,keep on rockin.




First Band from Outer Space

Electric Moon

LSD Pond

Electric Orange

Monkey3

Øresund Space Collective

Causa Sui

Colour Haze

Farflung

Sula Bassana

Samsara Blues Experiment

The Spacious Mind

The :Egocentrics

The Re-Stoned

Rotor

The Machine

Sungrazer

Weltraum

Acid Mothers Temple & The Melting Paraiso U.F.O.

Zone Six

Space Debris

Blaak Heat Shujaa

Mugstar

Liquid Visions

High Wolf

Giant Brain

Baby Woodrose

Hypnos 69

Incredible Expanding Mindfuck

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Nov 19, 2011 10:56pm
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I really like the Acid Mother's,I saw them in NYC in the mid-nineties and they were potent.This show has a nice Space Ritual jam and Pink Lady Lemonade.

http://www.archive.org/details/amt2011-04-25.sp8

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 19, 2011 9:54pm
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Longer than you've been alive, whippersnapper.

No, not really. But I've definitely gone many years without listening to constant GD or anything. I didn't follow the post-GD bands (unfortunately) after Jerry's death; I did listen to the GD CDs I had and periodically picked up others, but not religiously or more than anything else. I'd definitely been paying less attention for a long time up to Jerry's death, too -- not for any particular reason, just the cycles of life -- although I caught them when they were in town and all.

I got back into listening a lot more when I found the archives. Certainly more than I had when it was just CDs (or records!) and tapes. Which goes to show it really is a darned good marketing tool, intentional or not, to have free music available :-)

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Nov 20, 2011 9:50am
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My response is somewhat like Micah's as i basically stopped listening from 1995-2005. Learned about the archive in the summer of 2005 and couldn't stop listening for a few years. I do listen to other music, and that has been influenced by listening to the grateful dead, although not as much as it has by the good people of this forum, who have made some great recommendations.

For the record, when i read your post, my first response was that this was not written by a 24 year old. I am not trying to suggest that you aren't, but to write about "when you were a bit younger" or "as years go by" knowing this is a forum full of people old enough to be your parents (and maybe some really old farts that could be your grandparents!) can easily result in misinterpretation of your intentions.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:09pm
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"my first response was that this was not written by a 24 year old. I am not trying to suggest that you aren't, but to write about "when you were a bit younger" or "as years go by" knowing this is a forum full of people old enough to be your parents"

This is actually how kids write. If you ask kids to write their autobiography, they all talk about "many years ago when I was very young," sounding as if they were 60 years old. So maybe he is actually younger than he sounds, not older. But who cares?

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Nov 20, 2011 7:13pm
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not the ones i deal with. Maybe its because of they come to grad school to learn not to teach.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 20, 2011 10:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the longest break you've taken from the Grateful Dead?

oh well. people can interpret as they wish. this is all so ridiculous. i don't chose the perfect wording for everyone's liking, and once again a topic gets derailed for no good reason. if anybody actually thought i had any other intentions than just trying to raise a good question, they are obviously either paranoid, delusional, or have not been paying attention to the obvious good intentions behind my posts here.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 21, 2011 8:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Outstanding!!!

Any time a thread propogates to the point where subordinate posts are jammed all the way to the right as a column of songle words that is amazing and at the same time, quite sad.

I do have a confession to make -

I am only 19 - Jim Glynn, Cliff and Finster met my Dad. I have never been to a Grateful Dead show because my Mom wouldn't let me go to Chicago alone in '95 when I was 3. (I think I did the math right)

I have only ever had one screen name in the GD Forum.

I hate the taste and smell of scotch.

I have never been on a submarine.

I have 41,000 baseball cards and my favorite player/card is a 1909 T206 Mordecai Brown.

I do have a dog and she died this summer.

I realize this post contributed nothing to this thread - therefore it is in very good company.

I made all of this up.......